Comments on: Teams Developing Young Winning Pitchers http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13913 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Wednesday Links (17 Aug 11) | Ducksnorts http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13913/comment-page-1#comment-137758 Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:07:33 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=13913#comment-137758 [...] Teams Developing Young Winning Pitchers (Baseball-Reference). Clay Kirby, Andy Benes, Jake Peavy: three people who have never been in my kitchen… [...]

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By: Charles http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13913/comment-page-1#comment-135889 Sat, 13 Aug 2011 03:55:24 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=13913#comment-135889 In the past 10 years, 31 pitchers obtained 30 wins before they turned 25. This is the highest total since 1967-1976. 50 of the 78 pitchers who have started at least 34 total games during their first two seasons, in the past 10 years, were under the age of 25. 42 pitchers retired in the past 10 years after a season in which they started at least 17 games. This opens up the number of starting positions available for rookies.

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By: Mike L http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13913/comment-page-1#comment-135688 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 15:56:04 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=13913#comment-135688 There may be two trends that work against a lot of young pitchers gaining 30 wins. The wealthier teams have the bucks to sign top tier experienced free agents and the need to win now so that it's harder to risk it with a younger pitcher. And more mid and slow market teams are being very careful with their younger stars because of arbitration eligibility-they'd rather leave them down in the farm for a longer period

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By: Charles http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13913/comment-page-1#comment-135651 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:10:42 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=13913#comment-135651 There have been 316 pitchers reach 30 wins since 1901. 18 pitched at least 1/2 their games as relievers Since 1990 the numbers are 63 and 0.

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By: Anon http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13913/comment-page-1#comment-135647 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 14:01:00 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=13913#comment-135647 DBAcks will have at least 1 in the next 5-6 years as they are LOADED in the minors with quality pitching prospects - Bauer, Skaggs, Parker, Corbin, Holmberg, Miley, Bradley & a few others.

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By: Detroit Michael http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13913/comment-page-1#comment-135640 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 13:24:18 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=13913#comment-135640 The Rays have had some decent young starters lately, but not promoting them to the majors until they are plenty ripe has held them back on this leaderboard.

Looking up their details, maybe I'm making too much of the Rays' promotion tendencies. David Price missed by one win, but he's the only guy who has been close. Can one really say that Jeremy Hellickson would have had a dozen or more wins pitching for a more typical team?

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By: Charles http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13913/comment-page-1#comment-135602 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:52:37 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=13913#comment-135602 The Angels had 13 players with 54 or more career starts with 7 with 82 or more. They had 8 30 game winners.
The Mets had 9 players with 54 or more career starts with 5 with 82 or more. They had 5 30 game winners.
The Astros had 8 players with 54 or more career starts with 3 with 82 over 90. They had 4 30 game winners.
The Rangers had 7 players with 54 or more career starts with 2 over 82 or more. They had 2 30 game winners. Three were Senators, 3 were Rangers and one was both.
17/19 pitchers with 30 or more wins had 82 or more starts. Andy Messersmith had 31 total wins (26 in 64 starts, 5 in 41 relief appearances) and Roy Oswalt had 33 wins (31 in 54 starts, 2 in 9 relief appearances.

The Angels have the best team winning% in their history with 1 WS title and the Mets have the most Pennants/WS. The Rangers have the lowest win% and the Astros and Pangers are 0-1 in WS.

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By: JustHost http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13913/comment-page-1#comment-135514 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 07:23:23 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=13913#comment-135514 Articles written by bloggers is very good, and you can exchange links?;-)

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By: Gary W http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13913/comment-page-1#comment-135495 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 05:46:51 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=13913#comment-135495 It is also that both of the Rangers' pitchers on the list, Claude Osteen and Joe Coleman, accomplished this feat in Washington. No Ranger has ever won thirty games with the team before the end of year 24.

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By: Mike Felber http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13913/comment-page-1#comment-135493 Fri, 12 Aug 2011 05:18:57 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=13913#comment-135493 Also, to measure pitcher success, rather than include a large measure of their teams non-pitching strength, another stat, ERA + most obviously, would be better than wins. Also earlier age starts & more chances even more heavily favor the early days & the older franchises.

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