Comments on: Strikeouts early in a career http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1370 This and that about baseball stats. Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:30:03 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: JJStatman http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1370/comment-page-1#comment-6436 JJStatman Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:59:19 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=1370#comment-6436 Where's Ryan Howard? You can't possibly count his 39 AB in 2004 as a season. Excluding those AB, in 05 and 06 with 893 AB (Less than anyone on that list), he struck out 281 times! He had 1052 PA (third lowest on the list) and his strikeouts places him 5th among these players. Not to mention, he saw three strikes every 3.74 PA which also puts him 5th on this list for K/PA. More on Howard: he's getting worse; with back to back seasons with 199 strikeouts. He's over rated. Statman Where's Ryan Howard? You can't possibly count his 39 AB in 2004 as a season. Excluding those AB, in 05 and 06 with 893 AB (Less than anyone on that list), he struck out 281 times! He had 1052 PA (third lowest on the list) and his strikeouts places him 5th among these players. Not to mention, he saw three strikes every 3.74 PA which also puts him 5th on this list for K/PA. More on Howard: he's getting worse; with back to back seasons with 199 strikeouts. He's over rated.

Statman

]]> By: tomepp http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1370/comment-page-1#comment-6429 tomepp Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:26:34 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=1370#comment-6429 Actually, over the course of his career, he didn't. He only struck out more than 83 times in a season 4 times - but 3 of those 4 times were in his first 3 seasons (96, 151, 108 K). It seemed that he learned at least a modicum plate discipline after those 3 seasons. Where the rest of the guys on the list averaged a strikeout per 4.7 or fewer PA for their careers(except George Scott, at 1 K/5.8 PA), Delino averaged 1 K per 6.3 PA. He only dipped below 1 K per 4.7 PA for a season twice - in his second and final seasons. If you take away those first 3 years, he averaged 1 K per 6.8 PA. If you just look at the middle of his career (taking away the first 3 and last 2 years), he averaged 1 K per 7.1 PA. So while he's no Tony Gwynn, he doesn't fit the mold of the other sluggers on this list, either. Actually, over the course of his career, he didn't. He only struck out more than 83 times in a season 4 times - but 3 of those 4 times were in his first 3 seasons (96, 151, 108 K). It seemed that he learned at least a modicum plate discipline after those 3 seasons. Where the rest of the guys on the list averaged a strikeout per 4.7 or fewer PA for their careers(except George Scott, at 1 K/5.8 PA), Delino averaged 1 K per 6.3 PA. He only dipped below 1 K per 4.7 PA for a season twice - in his second and final seasons. If you take away those first 3 years, he averaged 1 K per 6.8 PA. If you just look at the middle of his career (taking away the first 3 and last 2 years), he averaged 1 K per 7.1 PA. So while he's no Tony Gwynn, he doesn't fit the mold of the other sluggers on this list, either.

]]> By: JohnnyTwisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1370/comment-page-1#comment-6425 JohnnyTwisto Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:07:23 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=1370#comment-6425 I had no memory that DeShields struck out so much. I had no memory that DeShields struck out so much.

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