Comments on: Stodgy strategy … and Sunday sundries http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13013 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Neil L. http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13013/comment-page-1#comment-129369 Tue, 19 Jul 2011 03:01:18 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=13013#comment-129369 @13
Spartan Bill, I think what happened on the Escobar play was that Angel Hernandez was screened out on the play and thought that both Posada abd Escobar missed the base with their foot. Replay showed that Toronto got jobbed on the call because Escobar clearly touched the base while Posada felt for the base with his foot but missed it.

Escobar did a right turn into foul territory, as he should, believing he was safe and not trying to advance to second.

I realize this explanation does not account for Hernandez calling the out after Posada tagged Escobar, but that was the take of the Blue Jays broadcast crew.

I don't think the first base coach or manager argued very vehemently which was surprising.

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By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13013/comment-page-1#comment-129355 Tue, 19 Jul 2011 01:55:02 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=13013#comment-129355 @32, Charles -- Mike Corkins? Brian Schmack?!?

Are you using some kind of random-name generator?

But seriously ... Schmack had the bad luck to have his lone year in the majors come with the 2003 Tigers, who lost 119 games. At least he can be proud that they went 4-7 in his appearances, and Schmack himself went 1-0. He and Steve Avery (2-0 in relief) were the only pitchers out of 20 used by the Tigers who had a winning record.

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By: Charles http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13013/comment-page-1#comment-129352 Tue, 19 Jul 2011 01:30:51 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=13013#comment-129352 First Career Win and First Career Save

It has happened before, at least 4 times in 1969, but with San Diego, Montreal and Kansas City - all expansion teams. On Sept. 15 Mike Corkins had his only win of the year and Dave Roberts had his only save.

In 2003, it happened at least twice. On April 11, 2003 John Lackey got his first win and Francisco Rodriguez his first save.
On Sept. 2, 2003 Brian Schmack got his only career win and Rodney Fernando got the save.

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By: Kahuna Tuna http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13013/comment-page-1#comment-129261 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:19:10 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=13013#comment-129261 I didn't mean to be obscure • But . . . wait a minute. Isn't that your job here?

Obtuse, abstruse, obsessive, occasionally obscene ... but never obscure!

Sorry, John! In your #27 you must have thought I was accusing you of being vague (definition #6 below). I meant "obscure" in the sense of definition #4, as in "obscure things that we wouldn't know without the help of the Play Index."

ob•scure
1. Deficient in light; dark.
2.
a. So faintly perceptible as to lack clear delineation; indistinct. Synonym: dark.
b. Indistinctly heard; faint.
c. Linguistics Having the reduced, neutral sound represented by schwa (ə).
3.
a. Far from centers of human population: an obscure village.
b. Out of sight; hidden: an obscure retreat.
4.
a. Not readily noticed or seen; inconspicuous: an obscure flaw.
b. Something obscure or unknown.
5. Of undistinguished or humble station or reputation: an obscure poet; an obscure family.
6. Not clearly understood or expressed; ambiguous or vague: "an impulse to go off and fight certain obscure battles of his own spirit" (Anatole Broyard). Synonym: ambiguous.

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By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13013/comment-page-1#comment-129245 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:12:20 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=13013#comment-129245 @29, Topper009 -- I must be missing something. I don't see how that clears up the mystery, i.e., why did the first baseman (apparently) need to tag the runner, and not just the base?

The rule you quoted says that the runner or the missed base may be tagged.

What am I missing?

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By: topper009 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13013/comment-page-1#comment-129244 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:59:04 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=13013#comment-129244 @13,

7.10 Any runner shall be called out, on appeal, when—

(b) With the ball in play, while advancing or returning to a base, he fails to touch each base in order before he, or a missed base, is tagged.

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By: stan cook http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13013/comment-page-1#comment-129236 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:20:38 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=13013#comment-129236 Speaking of Washington strategic decisions; I noticed that their closer, Storen, was not used in that game. Was he unavailable? Or can he just not be used in a non ninth inning, non save situation.?

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By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13013/comment-page-1#comment-129235 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:14:33 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=13013#comment-129235 Obtuse, abstruse, obsessive, occasionally obscene ... but never obscure!

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By: Kahuna Tuna http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13013/comment-page-1#comment-129223 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:36:29 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=13013#comment-129223 I didn't mean to be obscure

But . . . wait a minute. Isn't that your job here? (-;þ I think everyone knows enough about the Mariners' recent offensive struggles to get the gist of your phrase. If not . . . faut pas t'en faire.

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By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/13013/comment-page-1#comment-129221 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:34:58 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=13013#comment-129221 ... and the answer is: (to my question @24)

19 pitchers in modern MLB history had at least 40 games finished and no saves.
-- Carlos Almanzar (1997-2005) is tops with 63.
-- Jesse Chavez ("who?") leads the active players with 57.
-- Joe Smith (mentioned in my post) has the most save-free relief appearances of all time, 263.

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