Comments on: Mark Trumbo, Nelson Cruz, low OBP, and high OPS+ http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12801 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Charles http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12801/comment-page-1#comment-128599 Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:20:18 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12801#comment-128599 Williams $12.5 million/year for 6 years up to 2005. The Yankees announced on August 2, 2005, that they would not pick up the $15 million option on Williams' contract for the 2006 season, opting to pay a $3.5 million buyout instead. On December 22, the Yankees re-signed Williams to a 1-year, $1.5 million contract. He started 77 games in the 3 outfield positions, more than expected due to injuries of Matsui and Sheffield.

The article above @61 said "that the emergence of young outfielder Melky Cabrera contributed to making Williams an expendable piece. The Yankees also intend to carry seven relief pitchers and are entertaining a platoon at first base, filling up roster space that could have gone to Williams as a fifth outfielder."

He was interested in playing but the Yankees weren't interested in keeping him unless he could prove himself in Spring training and I would guess he saw little hope in making the club and apparently no other club was interested.

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By: BSK http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12801/comment-page-1#comment-128302 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:29:32 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12801#comment-128302 I suppose it was suspicious that Bernie Williams didn't hang on for 5 more seasons, pad his stats with some sub par efforts, and ensure his enshrinement in the HOF. WHAT DID HE KNOW?!?!

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By: Mustachioed Repetition http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12801/comment-page-1#comment-128273 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 04:15:01 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12801#comment-128273 Is that what was meant by "suspicious circumstances"?

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By: BSK http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12801/comment-page-1#comment-128265 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 03:20:31 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12801#comment-128265 Bernie Williams hit 65/12/61 and 281/332/436 in 2006, a slight uptick from his 2005 season but his second consecutive sub 100OPS+ season with his usual subpar defense. With his contract up, he hoped to return to the Yanks as a backup outfield, but was offered only a non-roster invitation to spring training. Insulted by the offer, he opted to retire instead.

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070221&content_id=1809854&vkey=spt2007news&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy

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By: Steve http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12801/comment-page-1#comment-128260 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 01:00:48 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12801#comment-128260 Didn't Bernie hurt is hand in a freak guitar string accident??

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By: Mustachioed Repetition http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12801/comment-page-1#comment-128256 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 00:39:35 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12801#comment-128256 Not well known to me.

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By: Timmy p http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12801/comment-page-1#comment-128248 Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:25:39 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12801#comment-128248 @56 Jeff - You are wrong, my point about Gary and Joe Carter is serious. I'm trying to point out that in the case of Joe Carter, many are guilty of group-think mentality. As far as Bernie Williams, that story is well known.

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By: Thomas Court http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12801/comment-page-1#comment-128177 Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:42:28 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12801#comment-128177 @56

I know exactly what you mean Jeff. You just have to resist taking the bait. Like what in the world is Timmy P talking about when he says about Bernie Williams in a recent post, "His career was cut short under some suspicious circumstances."

About Bill Mazeroski, I find that his comparison to Willie Randolph in the Historical Baseball Abstract to be very interesting.

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By: Jeff http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12801/comment-page-1#comment-128174 Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:30:46 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12801#comment-128174 It's hard to believe that some of you let Timmy P's comments upset you. You do realize that he writes things he doesn't believe just to get a rise out of certain posters, don't you? I think I'm going to take a page out of Timmy P's book and see what happens:

I believe that Mickey Morandini was a better second baseman than Bill Mazeroski because he had a higher BA and a much higher OBP. Discuss.

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By: Mustachioed Repetition http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12801/comment-page-1#comment-128161 Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:39:20 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12801#comment-128161 .335 is a good OBP?

I didn't know the only choices were "good" and "bad." It was above average, so I guess it has to be considered "good."

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