Comments on: Teams With 2+ 18+ Game Winners Since 1973 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12438 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Frank Clingenpeel http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12438/comment-page-1#comment-125882 Sun, 03 Jul 2011 02:10:15 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12438#comment-125882 one word of warning about being boring, or stupid;

Occaisions of either make a person human. Too much of either makes him {or her} both; continuously dwelling on past performance maikes you a royal pain in the touchis.

Learn it, Moustachio and Timmy. Live it.

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By: Zachary http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12438/comment-page-1#comment-125817 Sat, 02 Jul 2011 19:43:35 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12438#comment-125817 I think we're just defining things differently. Johnson has a better season in terms of production, but I think Pedro was more brilliant when he actually took the hill. If you're asking yourself, "Would I rather have '02 Johnson or '02 Pedro?", the answer very much depends on whether you're talking for a season, for a series, or for a single game. I tend to base my terms like "best" on the final category.

I'll absolutely concede that Johnson had a better season overall. No question about it.

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By: Thomas Court http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12438/comment-page-1#comment-125628 Sat, 02 Jul 2011 07:47:59 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12438#comment-125628 Now remember Zachary, you are comparing RJ's best WAR season (8.8) with Pedro's sixth best WAR season (5.7) so there is no shine off of Pedro's stellar career to concede the 2002 season to the Big Unit.

Although it is interesting to extrapolate the comparison over the entire careers of both pitchers.

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By: Thomas Court http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12438/comment-page-1#comment-125626 Sat, 02 Jul 2011 07:36:38 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12438#comment-125626 @49

I am gonna have to politefully disagree - at least as far as the 2002 season is concerned. I see no problem if you want to give Pedro the edge over the previous seasons (although RJ was no slouch himself winning 3 consecutive Cy Young Awards).

But in 2002, their numbers were razor close, (ERA+ has Pedro ahead 202 to 197) - but with Johnson pitching an additional 60.2 innings. That is 7+ additional starts. I would rather have the guy who is toeing the mound for more than an extra month's worth of innings.

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By: Zachary http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12438/comment-page-1#comment-125613 Sat, 02 Jul 2011 05:42:16 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12438#comment-125613 @46 That's definitely arguable, but I think that most people would agree that Johnson's biggest advantage was volume. Personally, I would say that Pedro's edge in quality on the hill (an edge I'd give him against anyone in baseball history) trumped Johnson's greater amount of time spent on it, but I think it's fair to just call it a wash. Since Martinez had been the best pitcher in baseball over the previous 5-6 years, I think it's not unreasonable to give him the "tie goes to the runner" edge.

Either way, fair point. Randy Johnson is truly an all-time great and deserves more recognition than he tends to get.

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By: Dukeofflatbush http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12438/comment-page-1#comment-125556 Sat, 02 Jul 2011 00:59:19 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12438#comment-125556 @ 23
Mis-lassoed partition -

I didn't think of that. The pivotal 5th inning. The hinge! forget slamming the door - lets open the thing first!!!

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By: Hector http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12438/comment-page-1#comment-125536 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 21:53:54 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12438#comment-125536 I like the 5 teams which had 3 18-game winners. Four won their divisions, and the '91 Angels came in last.

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By: Ganderson http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12438/comment-page-1#comment-125515 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 19:27:08 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12438#comment-125515 #17 - I think Randy Johnson's 2002 season is every bit as good as Pedro's, and probably better.

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By: Liam http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12438/comment-page-1#comment-125475 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 16:07:23 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12438#comment-125475 @39 i meant this century... i should have specified

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By: Dave http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12438/comment-page-1#comment-125424 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 13:20:55 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12438#comment-125424 @20...Yankee fan I presume? 🙂

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