Comments on: The Phillies are still chucking shutouts http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12426 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Kahuna Tuna http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12426/comment-page-1#comment-125707 Sat, 02 Jul 2011 13:40:16 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12426#comment-125707 John, I probably know more about the 1971 season than about any MLB season before or since. Christmas 1972 I received a paper-and-dice Sports Illustrated Baseball game covering the 1971 season, and before inventing my own teams and players as a teenager I played many hundreds of games featuring the likes of RoY Chris Chambliss, benchwarmer Ernie Banks, third baseman Steve Garvey, and Fireman of the Year Ken Sanders (at least on paper, Detroit's Fred Scherman was nearly as good).

One of my favorite trivia items relates to the 1971 Brewers bullpen. In 1970, while pitching for the White Sox, reliever Floyd Weaver ("Weaver the Reliever"?) gave up the only career home run hit by reserve outfielder Floyd Wicker, who was playing for the Brewers at the time.

Weaver was awful for Milwaukee in 1971 — the only game he "finished" that the Brewers won (by one run), he didn't receive credit for a save. Pitching in relief of Marty Pattin, Weaver had given back one run of a two-run lead and put runners on second and third with one out in the seventh. Sanders came in to warm up, at which point the game was delayed, and ultimately called, because of rain. B-Ref credits Weaver with a hold. Generous of them, I'd say.

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By: Dave http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12426/comment-page-1#comment-125419 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 13:11:05 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12426#comment-125419 @4...best "quirk" or injustice about 1981 that I'm sure we're all aware of...Cincinnati Reds have best W/L in MLB that year and don't make the playoffs because of the 2-half seasons thing.

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By: Dukeofflatbush http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12426/comment-page-1#comment-125247 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:36:54 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12426#comment-125247 @ JA,

i think that Nelson Green fella might fit Andy's criteria for 95+ pitches in relief.
Amazing how close they came to 3 cycles. That woulda been something.

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By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12426/comment-page-1#comment-125201 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:49:10 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12426#comment-125201 @17, Kahuna -- The '71 Brewers had a tremendous closer in Ken Sanders, who closed out 77 games, a new record for GF by a margin of 10.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/sandeke01.shtml

Sanders had a hand in 8 of those 23 shutouts, with 7 saves and a win.

He led all pure relievers with 3.5 WAR in '71, the same mark he had the year before.

But then, you knew all that! 🙂

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By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12426/comment-page-1#comment-125198 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:35:48 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12426#comment-125198 Whoops -- I meant Kahuna's games @16.

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By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12426/comment-page-1#comment-125197 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:35:08 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12426#comment-125197 Re: the 2nd of Kahuna's games @15, you've gotta love a game in which:

-- the starting pitcher goes 2 for 3 with 4 walks (the latter tying the searchable record, done 3 times before that and not since);

-- Al Zarilla ties the (searchable) record with 4 doubles;

-- Ted Williams has 2 HRs and 5 RBI, but doesn't lead the team in either category;

-- ditto Walt Dropo with his 2 HRs and 7 RBI;

-- Bobby Doerr sets career highs with 3 HRs and 8 RBI;

-- Browns SP Cliff Fannin allows 8 runs, a figure exceeded by both succeeding relievers, Cuddles (!) Marshall and Sid Schacht;

-- Browns closer Tom Ferrick is needed to bring a merciful end to the home 8th inning, after Schacht serves up 3 HRs (4 months later, Ferrick would be the winning pitcher for the Yankees in game 3 of the 1950 WS);

-- the Red Sox set (searchable) records with 17 extra-base hits and 6 players with 2+ XBH; and

-- only 5,000 fans are in Fenway to see it.

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By: Kahuna Tuna http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12426/comment-page-1#comment-125194 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:14:38 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12426#comment-125194 Referring to Andy's table, the 1971 Brewers wound up with 23 shutouts . . . and 69 wins. The .333 shutouts-to-wins ratio is a post-1968 team record.

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By: Kahuna Tuna http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12426/comment-page-1#comment-125189 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:49:36 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12426#comment-125189 1950 Red Sox: Five different players with 5+ RBI in consecutive games.

Red Sox 20, Browns 4

Red Sox 29, Browns 4

The 1925 Pirates and 1950 Red Sox are the only two teams to score 20+ runs in consecutive games.

No cycles in either of these games, although three players accomplished the feat in June 1950.

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By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12426/comment-page-1#comment-125179 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:52:35 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12426#comment-125179 @13 -- Well done, Raphy!

And how about this trio from the first of those games?:
Glenn Wright -- HR, 3B, 2B (no 1B)
Kiki Cuyler -- 2 HR, 3B, 1B (no 2B)
Max Carey -- cycle in 4 hits

And poor Nelson Greene: after 2 Brooklyn pitchers were knocked out in the first 2 innings, Greene took one for the team, finishing the game with 6.2 IP, 18 hits, 15 earned runs; the last figure is a record for a GF in the searchable era.

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By: Raphy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/12426/comment-page-1#comment-125148 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:48:49 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=12426#comment-125148 @9 - I don't know the record, but the Mets don't have it.
Check out these 2 consecutive Pirate games in 1925: 6 different players with 4 RBI.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PIT/PIT192506200.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLN/SLN192506220.shtml

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