Comments on: The watch for Jim Thome’s 600th HR and the first AL game to feature two players with 600 HRs http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/11195 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Friday Stroll « Puckett's Pond | A Minnesota Twins Blog http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/11195/comment-page-1#comment-116048 Fri, 27 May 2011 16:10:44 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=11195#comment-116048 [...] Andy at Baseball-Reference is looking forward to Jim Thome hitting his 600th career home run, and he’s hoping he does it before August 21.  Why?  Because what is cooler than 1 600 HR hitter on the field?  How about 2 of them!!! [...]

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By: Johnny Twisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/11195/comment-page-1#comment-115619 Thu, 26 May 2011 07:10:31 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=11195#comment-115619 Elbow, good point about college. There certainly are more players going to college than once did. Are there more *elite* players going? I'm not sure (the best #1 draft picks have been high schoolers). You say only 6 of the 500-club went -- how many of those were of the most recent batch?

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By: flyingelbowsmash http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/11195/comment-page-1#comment-115339 Wed, 25 May 2011 03:46:38 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=11195#comment-115339 Not sure if anyone is still reading this post. . . I was thinking about this and the future of 500+ HR hitters. Has there been an increase in the number of MLB players going to college and would this impact their ability to play long enough to make such a milestone? There are only 6 players above 500 hrs who played in college and the average age of MLB debut is about 20 yrs for the 500 club. Just a thought. (I remember people making a big deal that Jayson Heyward was called up last year at the tender young age of 20 and wondered if it was too soon).
Any potential players whose college career robbed them of potential MLB at bats that kept them from a major milestone such as 500 HR? A possible HOF snub, again, just a thought. . .

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By: Doug http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/11195/comment-page-1#comment-115211 Tue, 24 May 2011 18:45:47 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=11195#comment-115211 @50

Duke, a month or so ago you were commenting on the 1971 Aaron/Cepeda and Mays/McCovey confluence, and conjecturing whether any game had featured four players with a combined 2000 career HR at that point in time.

I have found these two games (from the same series) with Griffey (609), Thome (539), Rodriguez (553) and Giambi (395). Total of 2096.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYA/NYA200809170.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYA/NYA200809180.shtml

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By: Doug http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/11195/comment-page-1#comment-115198 Tue, 24 May 2011 17:54:46 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=11195#comment-115198 @50

Thanks Duke,

I did check that combo. Santo didn't hit his 300th until 9/10/71. The Cubs did not play the Giants or Braves the rest of the way that year (remember when teams only played in their division in September - I liked that).

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By: Dukeofflatbush http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/11195/comment-page-1#comment-115189 Tue, 24 May 2011 17:40:14 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=11195#comment-115189 @ 22

I Believe one or more of those 1971 Aaron/Mays contests also featured Cepeda and McCovey (then), both of whom had 350.
Also in '71, Ernie Banks was in his last season and had Billy Williams and Ron santo as teammates with 300 HRs. I believe the Cub trio and the Brave and Giant Duo locked horns a few times.

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By: Doug http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/11195/comment-page-1#comment-115171 Tue, 24 May 2011 16:39:41 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=11195#comment-115171 @28, @30, @34 and others.

The 3 x 400 game above is interesting from the persepctive of future HR projections for Mathews and Mays. Those two, born just 5 months apart, had virtually identical HR totals (424 and 426) at that point. I think it would have been very hard to predict then that Mays' career would run 5 years and 148 homers longer than Mathews.

In addition to appearing in the first 6 x 200, 4 x 300, and 3 x 400 games, Mathews was also in this first AL 2 x 500 game with Mantle.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYA/NYA196709250.shtml

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By: Doug http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/11195/comment-page-1#comment-115169 Tue, 24 May 2011 16:30:50 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=11195#comment-115169 @45.

Thanks, Bob.

I hadn't actually looked beyond 6 players, so don't know if the games you mentioned are firsts or not.

The six 2011 Yankees with 200 HR that you mention are reminiscent of the 2005 Yankees in the 6 x 300 game above. Later in 2005, Giambi got to 300 HR. So, with 5 guys at that mark, I did a quick check for a 7 x 300 game that year, but couldn't find it.

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By: Doug B http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/11195/comment-page-1#comment-115153 Tue, 24 May 2011 15:08:30 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=11195#comment-115153 Braun is going to have ~165 home runs when he turns age 28. Which would put him more than 130 behind Andruw Jones and Juan Gonzalez at that age.

Yes he could reach 500 but it's not like he got a fast start age-wise.

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By: Zim http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/11195/comment-page-1#comment-115149 Tue, 24 May 2011 14:40:20 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=11195#comment-115149 @ #2 Aaron indeed passed Mays as the likely home run king after the 1968 season, as Mays power faded.

Mays peaked at a 45% chance for 715 after his 1966 season when he hit 37 to push his total to 562.

Player Age Year HR Tot 715%
Mays 34 1965 54 525 33%
Mays 35 1966 37 562 45%
Mays 36 1967 23 585 33%
Mays 37 1968 22 607 8%

Player Age Year HR Tot 715%
Aaron 31 1965 32 398 11%
Aaron 32 1966 44 442 5%
Aaron 33 1967 39 481 21%
Aaron 34 1968 29 510 28%

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