Comments on: Losing It Semi-Quickly In Mid-to-Late 30’s Since 1973 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10956 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: DoubleDiamond http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10956/comment-page-1#comment-110506 Thu, 05 May 2011 22:58:49 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10956#comment-110506 @7 Are you referring to Ibanez's 2009 season (his first with the Phillies)? He got off to a great start, up among the league leaders in all three triple crown categories. But then he got hurt, and when he returned, he really went into a tailspin.

He had an zero-for-35 string that was broken two nights ago. All five of his hits in the past two games have been for extra bases - 4 doubles and a home run. The home run, a "justifiably solo" shot (my nickname for a homer that leads off an inning, as this one did, or immediately follows another one), broke a mid-game 0-0 tie and started the Phillies on the way to a 7-4 win. (Three of the Nationals' four runs scored on a 3-run homer with two out in the 9th. The other one scored on a two-out, full-count hit capping an at-bat in which a 2-2 pitch that the radio announcers thought should have been strike 3 but was called ball 3.)

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By: dukeofflatbush http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10956/comment-page-1#comment-110207 Wed, 04 May 2011 23:44:31 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10956#comment-110207 I remember in 1988 Dale Murphy falling off the map. He hit 20 less HRs and 70 points in average in just one year, but he was only 32.

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By: MIkeD http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10956/comment-page-1#comment-110196 Wed, 04 May 2011 21:22:38 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10956#comment-110196 @20, Adding to my own note. It appears Kingman did sign with his old team, the San Francisco Giants, for the 1987 season, playing 20 games down in AAA before retiring. I still to think there might have been some issue around collusion that might have led to him having to take a minor league deal, but it's not mentioned in his Wikipedia entry.

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By: MIkeD http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10956/comment-page-1#comment-110193 Wed, 04 May 2011 21:10:10 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10956#comment-110193 I thought for some reason Kingman retired, but my memory might be faulty. Perhaps he did elect to retire, but it was due to collusion because he couldn't get an offer he found acceptable, so he elected to retire. Too bad. I had hoped he stick around as a DH for a couple more seasons to eclipse 500 HRs, eliminating the "automatic entry" to the HOF for 500 HRs. The steroids era seems to have accomplished it a few years later.

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By: Losing It Semi-Quickly In Mid-to-Late 30′s Since 1973 » Stathead » Blog Archive http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10956/comment-page-1#comment-110191 Wed, 04 May 2011 20:53:09 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10956#comment-110191 [...] Losing It Semi-Quickly In Mid-to-Late 30′s Since 1973: Steve Lombardi of B-R found players who were good in the their mid-30s… until suddenly they weren’t. [...]

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By: Fourfriends http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10956/comment-page-1#comment-110144 Wed, 04 May 2011 18:04:56 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10956#comment-110144 @14 - I know he was the only American Leaguer to hit 30+ in all three years. But his BA dropped ~20-30 points each year as well - IIRC (didn't look it up) .253, .235, .210.

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By: Lawrence Azrin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10956/comment-page-1#comment-110141 Wed, 04 May 2011 17:52:34 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10956#comment-110141 @14/ drew weaver Says: "As I recall, Dave Kingman hit more homers (100) from 84-86 than anyone in MLB...yet still could not find employment in 1987."

Drew, that might have had something to do with the whole "collusion" situation between the 1986 and 1987 seasons. See: Tim Raines, Rich Gedman, Kirk Gibson, Andre Dawson, etc...

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By: basmati http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10956/comment-page-1#comment-110122 Wed, 04 May 2011 17:07:03 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10956#comment-110122 What's the odds Jeter is an all star again in 2011?

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By: Steve Lombardi http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10956/comment-page-1#comment-110093 Wed, 04 May 2011 14:48:53 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10956#comment-110093 Pete R - good catch! Thanks!

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By: drew weaver http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10956/comment-page-1#comment-110088 Wed, 04 May 2011 14:26:47 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10956#comment-110088 As I recall, Dave Kingman hit more homers (100) from 84-86 than anyone in MLB...yet still could not find employment in 1987.

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