Comments on: Slugging In Late 20’s & Not Always Playing http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10683 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Jimbo http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10683/comment-page-1#comment-105796 Thu, 14 Apr 2011 06:46:10 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10683#comment-105796 I was just joking guys. Everyone was nit-picking little details about why the players missed time.

I think the point of this list is to show which excellent hitters didn't get their share of PA's during their peak.

The list should've stopped at 2010 though, don't see the point of including the current young season.

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By: John http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10683/comment-page-1#comment-105663 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:24:13 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10683#comment-105663 @1 - It includes the current season for Gonzalez, and he's only played like 10 games so far.

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By: Steve Lombardi http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10683/comment-page-1#comment-105645 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:11:12 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10683#comment-105645 Agreed, 100%, it's not a perfect list. Some lost time to the war, others lost time because of the date cut off, etc.

It was never meant to be a end-all be-all cut and dried list. More so, it was on the fly, back of the envelope, quick and dirty with loose filters.

Take it in the spirit in which it was meant. 😉

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By: John Q http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10683/comment-page-1#comment-105644 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 14:05:46 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10683#comment-105644 @10 Jimbo,

My comments weren't meant to be snarky, petty or mean-spirted. The spirit of the question was about players from ages 26-30 who had high slugging percentages but missed time because of injury or because they weren't full-time starters.

There were extenuating circumstances for many of these players such as Strikes, War, Institutional Racism, Shorter Seasons, or early 20th century contract disputes.

And then there's a situation like Honus Wagner where the search didn't count his age 26 season.

Then there are unique situations that limit playing time for certain positions like Catchers.

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By: John Q http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10683/comment-page-1#comment-105640 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 13:44:11 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10683#comment-105640 @12 David RF,

You're right, Thomas spent his entire age 26 season in the Minors. However, if you take out 1981, he averaged 665 plate appearances from 1979-1980, 1982-1983. He only had 420 plate appearances in 1981 so it's safe to say he missed about 200 plate appearances because of the strike. He had 2321 plate appearances so he only needed 179 plate appearances to surpass the cut-off.

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By: Frank Clingenpeel http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10683/comment-page-1#comment-105632 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 13:01:02 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10683#comment-105632 Don't forget that for Lajoie, his absence for a couple of those years can be at least partly attributed to the fact that he was restrained -- by Pennsylvania courts -- from playing in that state after he "jumped" from the Phillies to the Indians. Because of the order, Larry couldn't travel with Cleveland when they played in Pennsylvania until either '02 or '03.

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By: Owen23 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10683/comment-page-1#comment-105627 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 12:29:03 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10683#comment-105627 A random observation about Lajoie and Wagner...the list above gives 0 for total strikeouts, but on their player pages those years now have totals for strikeouts in the seasons. I know for years batter K numbers were not listed for the years prior to 1912-ish, but I noticed here last week the numbers are now given. Does anybody have any more info about that ? Are those numbers to be "trusted" ?

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By: DavidRF http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10683/comment-page-1#comment-105618 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:55:43 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10683#comment-105618 @10
I wouldn't call it nitpicking. That's half the fun of these lists is to follow up and dig deeper. I suppose 154 vs 162 is quite a minor quibble though. The pre-1961 guys still missed time for some reason or another.

Like someone pointed out Gorman Thomas was affected by the strike. That's true, but he also spent his entire age 26 season in the minors. I'd keep him on for that reason.

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By: mark szymcik http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10683/comment-page-1#comment-105613 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:00:59 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10683#comment-105613 Ifre #10--whart was the point of the original list? Dealing with injuries or any facto--e.g. war or strikes that lowered the total PAs? The war and the 94-95 schedule affected everyone, not selected players, hence the "nitpicking".

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By: Jimbo http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10683/comment-page-1#comment-105586 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 05:16:59 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10683#comment-105586 lol wow so much nitpicking in this thread.

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