Comments on: The Orioles’ great start http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10576 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: DoubleDiamond http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10576/comment-page-1#comment-104257 Fri, 08 Apr 2011 02:54:45 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10576#comment-104257 Correction to the last post - they gave up a total of TWO runs.

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By: DoubleDiamond http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10576/comment-page-1#comment-104256 Fri, 08 Apr 2011 02:53:57 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10576#comment-104256 The Orioles also had a fairly famous four-game streak in which they gave up a total of four runs - 2 in the first game (none after the third inning) and zero in the other three combined.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/1966_WS.shtml

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By: oneblankspace http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10576/comment-page-1#comment-104140 Thu, 07 Apr 2011 15:56:33 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10576#comment-104140 Interesting that 1983 (World Series Champions) is missing from this list.

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By: BSK http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10576/comment-page-1#comment-104130 Thu, 07 Apr 2011 15:33:15 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10576#comment-104130 JA-

If anything dooms them, it s all the old guys they added. Vlad? Lee? Really? They have young talent, though I think there are legitimate questions about that organizations ability to develop it's talent. I expect them to be far better than last year and likely vault the Blue Jays for 4th.

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By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10576/comment-page-1#comment-104022 Thu, 07 Apr 2011 03:41:10 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10576#comment-104022 While I doubt that the Orioles can really contend this year, they do seem to have the makings of a good rotation.

Jeremy Guthrie has a 110 ERA+ in 4 seasons with Baltimore. I wouldn't call him an ace -- he has a low K rate -- but he has good control, and easily could have had 15 wins two or three times with a better lineup behind him.

Brian Matusz, age 24, has a 98 ERA+ in 220 MLB innings. His potential is easy to see; his MLB K and BB rates are promising enough (7.4 K and 3.1 BB per 9 IP), and he was very impressive in his brief minor-league time. He finished last year strong.

Jake Arrieta, 25, had a 2.89 ERA and a K per inning in over 300 minor-league innings. He hasn't shown that K stuff yet in the majors, but has a 95 ERA+ in his first 19 starts. He needs to cut his walks, and has showed progress there, with just 4 walks in his last 4 starts.

Chris Tillman, 23, averaged 8 Ks and 2.3 BB per 9 IP at AAA over the past 2 years, 218 IP. His prior MLB stints weren't good, but he showed his stuff with 6 no-hit innings in his first start this year.

The young guys still have to prove they can do it consistently. But there certainly seems to be a better environment for them guys to get their footing ever since Buck took the reins.

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By: Ed http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10576/comment-page-1#comment-104008 Thu, 07 Apr 2011 01:43:47 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10576#comment-104008 @2/3 Dave

I took a look at the 5 game shutout streak. It was against Toronto and Detroit, two teams that were worse than Baltimore that year. The starters were Mussina (twice), Scott Erickson, Kevin Brown and Ben McDonald. Only Mussina was at his "peak" that particular year, but they were all decent pitchers at one point or another.

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By: Neil L. http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10576/comment-page-1#comment-104001 Thu, 07 Apr 2011 01:29:18 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10576#comment-104001 Well, reality is intruding on the O's pitching tonight!

What's up in the AL East with the Orioles and Jays leading the division?

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By: BSK http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10576/comment-page-1#comment-103993 Wed, 06 Apr 2011 23:47:41 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10576#comment-103993 Thanks, JA. That context helps. I'm not trying to nit pick Andy's work, but it does help frame how we should consider the Oriole's history in this area. Of course, it doesn't really matter, since these streaks had little to do with each other and their distribution amongst the individual franchises is likely completely random (once accounting for franchise age, playing environment, etc.). It would be interesting to see if such streaks were more likely to be put up by teams with stellar pitching (as one would assume) or if there is really no way to predict such a rare occurrence.

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By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10576/comment-page-1#comment-103982 Wed, 06 Apr 2011 21:37:15 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10576#comment-103982 @ 11, Juan -- There is definitely history showing that a strong 2nd half often foretells improvement the following season.

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By: Juan sin Miedo http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10576/comment-page-1#comment-103969 Wed, 06 Apr 2011 19:42:45 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10576#comment-103969 This is no fluke, The O's had the best won/loss record (AL East) post "In Buck we trust" era. The Bosox on the other hand had the worst won/lost record (AL East) in the same time frame. I am not handing Buck all the glory here, but there seems to be some correlation here that seems to have leaked into this season. It will be interesting to see if the O's can maintain this momentum throughout the season, and if there is history that shows teams with a winning second half one year go on to win their division the following year ?

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