Comments on: 2+ Seasons Of 180+ Hits With OPS+ Less Than 100 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10455 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: Gerry http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10455/comment-page-1#comment-102784 Thu, 31 Mar 2011 06:06:50 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10455#comment-102784 @21, thanks. If I make it to 85, I'll have to move to Manahawkin, maybe they'll name a street after me, too.

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By: Johnny Twisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10455/comment-page-1#comment-102775 Thu, 31 Mar 2011 04:43:25 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10455#comment-102775 wonder who has the most productive hits. I'll guess Gehrig.

Interesting question. With substantial playing time, the leader, unsurprisingly, is Babe Ruth, with 0.060 WAR per hit. Gehrig had .044. With a minimum of 3000 PA, 13 players have had at least .040 WAR per hit (the others are Bonds, Mays, Hornsby, T. Williams, Mantle, Schmidt, Morgan, Mathews, Pujols, J. Robinson, Tenace).

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By: Steve Lombardi http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10455/comment-page-1#comment-102668 Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:37:28 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10455#comment-102668 Gerry - Cramer died in Manahawkin, New Jersey at 85 years of age. There is a street there named in his honor (Doc Cramer Blvd.). There was also formerly a youth baseball tournament, the Doc Cramer Invitational Baseball Tournament, held in Manahawkin every July.

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By: stan cook http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10455/comment-page-1#comment-102649 Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:33:04 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10455#comment-102649 Re: the above (#19). I have wondered about Pete Rose's career run totals. First in plate appearances by a huge margin and mostly batting leadoff in front of good hitters. Yet only 6th in run scored. A run for approximately every 7.5 PAs.

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By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10455/comment-page-1#comment-102626 Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:48:19 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10455#comment-102626 @17 -- A raw count of Pierre's runs scored means little without any context.

Let's put his 2010 season into context:
-- The average AL leadoff spot produced 99 Runs and 54 RBI.
-- The White Sox, with Pierre leading off all but 6 games, got 97 Runs and 48 RBI -- slightly below average, even their overall R/G was about 4% above average.

So where's the offensive value?

The same analysis for his other seasons often leads to same conclusion.

Taking another angle and focusing only on Runs....
2010 was the first time in his career that Pierre cracked the top 10 in runs scored in his league; he was tied for 10th.

Is that good value from a slap-hitting leadoff man?

For the years 2001-07 -- the prime of his career -- Pierre was 3rd among all hitters in total PAs (averaging 716 PA per year), 2nd in total outs made ... but 14th in Runs.

When you examine Pierre's raw numbers in the context of what other leadoff men do, then factor in the cost to his teams of all the outs he's made, he has clearly been a below-average leadoff man.

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By: capnjiffy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10455/comment-page-1#comment-102573 Wed, 30 Mar 2011 14:47:06 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10455#comment-102573 You'll all notice Pierre made an effort to get on base other ways than slap singles last year with his 21 HBP. Who needs walks when you can Biggio your way on to first?

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By: PANRELL http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10455/comment-page-1#comment-102558 Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:57:45 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10455#comment-102558 @12 Juan Pierre scored 90 plus run 7 times in his career.Since scoring runs is the object of the game, I would say he has been valuable to his team.

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By: Soundbounder http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10455/comment-page-1#comment-102545 Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:37:16 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10455#comment-102545 Felix Milan and Lance Johnson immediately came to mind. I was half right.

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By: Gerry http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10455/comment-page-1#comment-102511 Wed, 30 Mar 2011 05:59:26 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10455#comment-102511 So, why does Doc Cramer have a boulevard named after him?

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By: John Autin http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/10455/comment-page-1#comment-102500 Wed, 30 Mar 2011 04:33:19 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/?p=10455#comment-102500 Has anyone gone from being often mentioned as "one of the most underrated players" to being tacitly acknowledged as one of the most overrated, more quickly than Michael Young, with so little change in his actual performance?

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