Comments on: Albert Pujols http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1014 This and that about baseball stats. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:57:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Alien 3 of the Average Baseball Player | The 35th Street Review: White Sox Blog @ Sox35th.com http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1014/comment-page-1#comment-6022 Alien 3 of the Average Baseball Player | The 35th Street Review: White Sox Blog @ Sox35th.com Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:55:12 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=1014#comment-6022 [...] very cherished history from some of the questionable characters that came before him; now, well, a man in St. Louis can expect to gain a lot of new [...] [...] very cherished history from some of the questionable characters that came before him; now, well, a man in St. Louis can expect to gain a lot of new [...]

]]> By: vincent75 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1014/comment-page-1#comment-5985 vincent75 Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:16:44 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=1014#comment-5985 thats what i figured, but still, piazza should be included in this bunch even though PI excludes him. and he did it as a catcher in a predominately pitcher's ballpark,- two factors which make his feat more impressive. thats what i figured, but still, piazza should be included in this bunch even though PI excludes him. and he did it as a catcher in a predominately pitcher's ballpark,- two factors which make his feat more impressive.

]]> By: Raphy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1014/comment-page-1#comment-5984 Raphy Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:59:23 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=1014#comment-5984 Vincent - Andy's search didn't (can't) exclude any seasons that's why Piazza didn't make the list. Counting 1992 Piazza's first 8 seasons included 5 in which he qualified for the batting title and had on OPS+ of 150 or higher. He missed in '92, '94 and '99. Vincent - Andy's search didn't (can't) exclude any seasons that's why Piazza didn't make the list. Counting 1992 Piazza's first 8 seasons included 5 in which he qualified for the batting title and had on OPS+ of 150 or higher. He missed in '92, '94 and '99.

]]> By: Raphy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1014/comment-page-1#comment-5983 Raphy Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:14:46 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=1014#comment-5983 Here is where Ruth ranked after 1000 innings. http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/3quw Certainly impressive, but early results do not guarantee a HOF career. Just ask Frank Tanana. Here is where Ruth ranked after 1000 innings.
http://www.bb-ref.com/pi/shareit/3quw

Certainly impressive, but early results do not guarantee a HOF career. Just ask Frank Tanana.

]]> By: vincent75 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1014/comment-page-1#comment-5982 vincent75 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:46:02 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=1014#comment-5982 excluding his 69 at bats as a rookie, i count six seasons of 150 or more of ops+ for mike piazza, but he didnt make the list. excluding his 69 at bats as a rookie, i count six seasons of 150 or more of ops+ for mike piazza, but he didnt make the list.

]]> By: JohnnyTwisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1014/comment-page-1#comment-5981 JohnnyTwisto Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:23:14 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=1014#comment-5981 Great find Raphy. Gehrig's first full season was '25. I don't know when he started hitting cleanup. From 1920-1924, Ruth walked in 21.7% of plate appearances. From 1926-1930 he walked 19.0%. A notable difference, but not huge, and could be influenced by other things besides Gehrig's presence behind him. So I doubt Ruth was getting IBB'd in Bonds numbers. Maybe '23 was an exception (that was his career high in BB, 170). Ollie, some people have noted that Ruth's K-rate was declining. Even in an era of fewer K's, that was not a good sign, and so maybe he would not have lasted as an effective pitcher that much longer. But maybe he just couldn't pitch as well when he was also playing the OF a lot, and if he had remained mainly a pitcher he would have been fine. Great find Raphy.

Gehrig's first full season was '25. I don't know when he started hitting cleanup. From 1920-1924, Ruth walked in 21.7% of plate appearances. From 1926-1930 he walked 19.0%. A notable difference, but not huge, and could be influenced by other things besides Gehrig's presence behind him. So I doubt Ruth was getting IBB'd in Bonds numbers. Maybe '23 was an exception (that was his career high in BB, 170).

Ollie, some people have noted that Ruth's K-rate was declining. Even in an era of fewer K's, that was not a good sign, and so maybe he would not have lasted as an effective pitcher that much longer. But maybe he just couldn't pitch as well when he was also playing the OF a lot, and if he had remained mainly a pitcher he would have been fine.

]]> By: ollie1000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1014/comment-page-1#comment-5980 ollie1000 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:15:27 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=1014#comment-5980 You think Albert could match The Babe on the mound? I don't know enough about making projections but do you think he was headed to a Hall of Fame pitching career? You think Albert could match The Babe on the mound? I don't know enough about making projections but do you think he was headed to a Hall of Fame pitching career?

]]> By: Raphy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1014/comment-page-1#comment-5977 Raphy Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:30:42 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=1014#comment-5977 I don't know how accurate this is, but according to the following link, Ruth was intentionally walked 80 times in 1923 (Gehrig's first year; one in which he barely played.) http://tinyurl.com/d22ddp I don't know how accurate this is, but according to the following link, Ruth was intentionally walked 80 times in 1923 (Gehrig's first year; one in which he barely played.)

http://tinyurl.com/d22ddp

]]> By: JohnnyTwisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1014/comment-page-1#comment-5976 JohnnyTwisto Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:17:06 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=1014#comment-5976 Hopefully one day Retrosheet will get back into Ruth's career. I wonder how many times he was intentionally walked before Gehrig arrived? Hopefully one day Retrosheet will get back into Ruth's career. I wonder how many times he was intentionally walked before Gehrig arrived?

]]> By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1014/comment-page-1#comment-5974 Andy Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:11:47 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=1014#comment-5974 Nice, Raphy. Actually it's amazing how well Pujols stacks up. Nice, Raphy. Actually it's amazing how well Pujols stacks up.

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