Comments on: Worst OPS+ in a season with 50 doubles http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1011 This and that about baseball stats. Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:01:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6 By: JohnnyTwisto http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1011/comment-page-1#comment-5941 Tue, 27 Jan 2009 04:34:45 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=1011#comment-5941 I think I've identified the immortal Rob Ducey on that list. One of a number of OF prospects Toronto produced in the late 80s-90s. And I seem to recall that at least twice, he was the last person on an Opening Day roster to get his first hit of the season.

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By: Raphy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1011/comment-page-1#comment-5940 Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:12:52 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=1011#comment-5940 The list is players with at least 5 more doubles than rbi.

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By: Raphy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1011/comment-page-1#comment-5939 Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:00:50 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=1011#comment-5939 From 1901-2007 the player with the most 2b-rbi was Frank Baumholtz who had 36 2B and 25 RBI for the 1953 Cubs.

I don't know how well this will paste, but here are the other players with more 2b than rbi in a season (from the Lahman database) If you have any question about a player's identity you can search BR for the ID and it will take you to his page.

playerID yearID stint teamID lgID G AB 2B RBI 2b-rbi
baumhfr01 1953 1 CHN NL 133 520 36 25 11
bartedi01 1931 1 PHI NL 135 554 43 34 9
coonejo01 1938 1 BSN NL 120 432 25 17 8
burnsge01 1925 1 PHI NL 88 349 29 22 7
allenet01 1927 1 CIN NL 111 359 26 20 6
adamssp01 1931 1 SLN NL 143 608 46 40 6
martihe01 1939 1 PHI NL 111 393 28 22 6
alvarlu01 1971 1 CHA AL 99 264 14 8 6
dyerbe01 1917 1 DET AL 30 67 5 0 5
callale01 1919 1 PHI NL 81 235 14 9 5
woodspi01 1945 1 BOS AL 24 42 5 0 5
windhgo01 1962 2 LAA AL 40 45 6 1 5
fazioer01 1963 1 HOU NL 102 228 10 5 5
howsedi01 1966 1 CLE AL 67 140 9 4 5
peterfr01 1966 1 NYA AL 34 67 5 0 5
saverbo01 1967 1 WS2 AL 89 233 13 8 5
rayjo01 1981 1 PIT NL 31 102 11 6 5
jonesti02 1993 1 SLN NL 29 61 6 1 5
polonlu01 1995 2 ATL NL 28 53 7 2 5
duceyro01 1997 1 SEA AL 76 143 15 10 5
orsuljo01 1997 1 MON NL 106 150 12 7 5
meyerch02 1999 1 CHN NL 43 142 9 4 5
perezed02 2002 1 CLE AL 42 117 9 4 5
goodwto01 2004 1 CHN NL 77 105 8 3 5

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By: BunnyWrangler http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1011/comment-page-1#comment-5938 Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:33:44 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=1011#comment-5938 After way too much time searching, the only guy I could find who had a full season with more doubles than RBI was Ron Hunt in 1972. Max Carey had one more RBI than double in one year, and Luis Castillo had the same number of each in his magical seventeen-RBI season.

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By: Jgeller http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1011/comment-page-1#comment-5937 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:43:30 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=1011#comment-5937 There's a reason #4 on the list had a 100 OPS+. OPS+ is adjusted for the ballpark. Cirillo had a .869 OPS in a ballpark where the adjusted league average was .874. The real league average for everywhere on pure stats was .774. That would make for a 112 score.
If you take 1995 - 2001, the 7 years where Coors Field had a Park Factor over 120, and search by Runs Produced with an OPS+ at 100 or smaller, 5 of the top 17 are by Rockies, with #1 by Cirillo in 2000. If you look at OPS+ of 90 or less, 5 of the top 11 including all of the top 3. If you look at OPS+ of 70 or less, 5 of the top 8 including all of the top 3. That really all tells you something about how easy it was to produce runs in Coors Field.

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By: TheGoof http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1011/comment-page-1#comment-5935 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:22:21 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=1011#comment-5935 I think Roberts had more doubles than RBI when I saw him in Baltimore this year against the Rangers. He and Kinsler combined to go something like 10-for-11 with a ton of doubles. There are few players as fun to watch as those two.

As for Grudzielanek, Montreal was a great place for doubles hitter. Look at Brad Fullmer's totals. In his last two years in Montreal, Fullmer had 78 doubles and 22 HR. In the next two years in Toronto, 50 and 50. It doesn't take a math wiz to see the percentage change there. In 2000 and 2001 with Toronto, his numbers were pretty even, home and road. But in 1998, with a MUCH better performance on the road, he had almost as many doubles at home. And in 1999 he had twice as many. During a conversation that year with the AP stringer covering Montreal's home games, I asked about his ridiculous doubles totals. The guy told me it was all ballpark.

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By: Andy http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1011/comment-page-1#comment-5930 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:44:06 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=1011#comment-5930 #4 on that list is kind of amazing too. Would you ever think that a player with over 110 RBI and over 110 R could have just a league-average OPS?

I also wonder how many times a player has hit more doubles than he had RBI. Grudzielanek is the only guy on this list, although Pete Rose came close. Certainly you'd think it would be a leader hitter to achieve that.

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By: ZimJim http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/1011/comment-page-1#comment-5929 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:29:31 +0000 http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/?p=1011#comment-5929 his 54 doubles were part of his only 61 extra base hits the entire year. His slugging percetnage was only .384! and his on base percentage was a mere .307. He had 54 doubles and only 76 runs scored all year! Oh those 'spos! All in all thats a terrible year. But it makes you think about two things.
1. maybe he did just get lucky and got gappers more often than not.

2. ops+ really takes away the value of a singles hitter, and in this case the doubles hitter

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